Debian Stable vs Ubuntu LTS for Server?


I stumbled upon this thread whilst googling "ubuntu server stability issues" - searching for answers to my own concerns regarding the stability of Ubuntu server.

I have to admit that I'm a long term Ubuntu fan, particularly on the desktop (Since Breezy).

Box 1: "Fred"

I first deployed Ubuntu server 8.04 on a production machine that has low usage requirements; it's predominantly a "brochure-ware" level webserver with about 4/5 websites, which also acts as an offsite backup repository. Primary packages are Apache2, Mysql, Postgresql, PHP.

It's dual core, has 2 GB RAM, 2x 1GB HDD configured with mdadm as RAID1. Stability wise, it has been great except that it seems to die every 3-6 months for no obvious reason, despite combining through log after log.

I've kept this machine on 8.04, performing occasional updates.

Box 2: "Charlie"

Charlie has been running for a similar lifetime as Fred, and is used as an office based backup and media...

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There will be virtually no difference. Both will be completely stable in the fact that you will be getting NO new software for either, if you are using a released version of either Ubuntu of Debian. You will get only security patches to the old versions or other trivial patches to the old version of the software which it was released with and not new versions. This will not be different for either Debian or Ubuntu, the policies here are the same for both. And this is what makes either choice "stable". One misconception about Debian 'stable' is the meaning of stable. When we label a release as "stable", we do not mean stable as in "not crashing" we mean stable as in "not changing".

One difference will be the life cycle. Ubuntu LTS releases get 5 years of support. The most recent LTS release, 12.04 was last month. It will be supported until 2017. This means that you could install it now, and still be running the same 2012 versions of software in 2017 (but you will get...

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After our CentOS vs Ubuntu comparison and the requests we get, it’s finally time to compare Debian and Ubuntu. These 2 distros are used both as a desktop OS and as a server, so we’ll compare both use-cases.

Ubuntu is based on Debian Stable, so naturally, they are similar in many ways. However, they still have differences. Our comparison will focus more on the differences, but we’ll include the similarities too, so you can better compare them and decide which distro is better for you. This is a controversial comparison, so we expect as much input from you as possible. Leave a comment below, please.

For a quick overview, use this comparison table:

For more details, scroll down.

General Debian/Ubuntu Comparison

Before going into the server/desktop-specific differences, we’ll go through the general differences that apply to each distro release type.

Ubuntu is based on Debian, so most software is usable on both distros. You can configure both...

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With the release of various updated Linux distributions on our Classic VPS, I thought I’d write a post comparing my two favourite distributions: Ubuntu and Debian. I should say in advance that it has always been my view that Ubuntu is for the desktop and Debian is for the server; and I have used both operating systems in these respective roles for many years. However as Ubuntu matures and gains more commercial support from vendors and Canonical, this simplistic view of the distributions is now changing.

Stability and release cycle

One of the major differences between Debian and Ubuntu is their respective release cycles. Debian runs parallel stable and testing versions of the operating system over a 2 year release cycle. Whereas Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months, with a stable ‘long term support’ (LTS) release every 2 years.

Debian’s stable version is supported for 3 years; that is it will remain supported and continue to receive security...

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I've used both Debian and Ubuntu LTS and I am tempted to make the switch to stable when Wheezy is out. Why? Because it looks like the most promising stable in a long time! There are a number of features Debian stable needs to get before I can make the jump and I'll outline those here for those who don't see a point to using Ubuntu over Debian. Here are some key features which Debian has yet to bring to stable:

[*] Industry standard proactive security measures (even Windows and Mac have this)

Debian has yet to build packages with standard build-time hardening flags that even Ubuntu now uses. Note that Wheezy is working towards fixing this situation and this is purely because Debian leadership has been too cautious. This means if you want a more secure desktop/server, Ubuntu LTS has the edge over Squeeze. Wheezy on the other hand is working towards sorting this, with most packages aiming to be compiled as hardened by default across as many architectures as...

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Both are good options and use mostly the same software. As whistler789 pointed out, one big difference is Debian 8 uses systemd while Ubuntu 14.04 uses Upstart for managing services.

Ubuntu LTS is supported for five years (until 2019) while Debian's schedule is usually around four or five years. With their new LTS efforts, Debian 8 should be supported through to around 2019 or 2020.

Both projects have backports so software age shouldn't matter much.

I prefer the Ubuntu installer, it's a little faster to get through, but you only need to install once. I think Debian has a slightly smaller resource footprint.

In the end, I think what will matter most is whether you need official support (or at least the option of support). Canonical official supports Ubuntu, but Debian relies on third-party vendors for support. So if you're tinkering at home, Debian is probably a nice choice, but for business Ubuntu might have a slight...

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Debian Stable vs Ubuntu LTS for Server?

location: - date: November 29, 2010
Quick question: Which is better platform for a professional use server? Debian Stable or Ubuntu LTS? The third party software we plan to use, works on both. Which one is better on it own merits? Take into account things like the kernel (Ubuntu for example has its own custom kernel for servers), and other Ubuntu specific customizations. I keep switching back and forth, and I need to decide so I can recommend one or the other to a client. Right now, I think I am going to choose Debian Stable.

How to move Debian stable to testing?

location: - date: May 28, 2008
Right now I am running Debian etch on a desktop, but I am interested in moving that into the testing branch. How do I do that? I want to make it so that it will be a rolling release in that it will move directly onto the next testing version once Lenny is released. Thanks ahead of time for...

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I personally prefer Debian for everything over Ubuntu, but that’s just my opinion. I prefer stable, simple and utilitarian. The Debian system I use everyday is whittled down to being everything I need and not much more. It doesn’t really have a desktop environment, but just a window manager. It makes for a quick very basic system that has low resource use and is very stable. It probably would look similar to Windows XP.

I used to use Ubuntu and I’m not going to talk it down, really. It is based on Debian testing, so they very are similar, right down to easy, free updates. It just had a lot of things I will never use and had a lot going on.

If I had a server that I really needed to be stable and bomb proof, I would probably go with Debian stable without a gui and run everything from a terminal. You can get much more stable and resource friendly than...

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If you choose Linux as the operating system for your server, the next big question is: "Which Linux distro should I use on my Linux server?". Since different servers are intended to perform different tasks, the answer to this question is not easy.

Many people choose a distro which provides commercial support. This might be a (reasonable) requirement of their company or even a personal choice. Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) is the world's most popular commercial Linux distribution. Canonical also provides commercial support for Ubuntu server and Novell for Suse Enterprise Linux.

This article refers to ordinary servers, used as web server or database server, used and administered by a professional or a small business company. We believe that community support is valuable. So, we will select a community driven distribution.

Which distributions are available in the market?

Let's take a look at known hosting providers all...

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Debian is the oldest of the Linux distributions and has a venerable history.

But what attracts me to Ubuntu are the LTS distributions (or Long Term Support). You get a massive 5 years of support for that distribution. So, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS will be backed till 2017! Debian will support the previous release for 1 year.

Also, Ubuntu has the backing of a commercial organisation.

See also:


and a specific guide to setting up a Rails server on Ubuntu 12.04 here:

For the process of provisioning your server, see:

and, for Phusion Passenger, this is a useful...

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A wise man once compared Linux to vanilla ice cream. It’s pretty nice by itself, but if you add some flavors and toppings, it turns into something entirely else altogether. Debian and Ubuntu are just two of the many ‘flavors’ of Linux and count among the most popular Linux distributions around.

Debian and Ubuntu are both geared towards casual home users, though they can both accommodate hardcore programmers as well. The open-source community likes to posit them as worthy alternatives to Windows and OS X. In this article, we’ll see if this claim deserves any merit and tell you which Linux distribution – Debian or Ubuntu – deserves your time.

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Debian: A Brief Introduction

When Debian was first announced in 1993, it was a one-man project helmed by Ian Murdock who was then a CS student at Purdue University. To give you an idea of the humble beginnings of the project,...

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Debian vs Ubuntu, it's a long going argument amoung many linux users, which is better?

Both of them shares a similar OS architecture, package management system, features, and drawbacks as well.

So how they're different? And which one you should use for a specific purpose? Let's find out in this article.

Basic differences and similarities

More or less, ubuntu and debian is quite similar, as Ubuntu is based on Debian testing itself. You can check that by running the cat /etc/debian_version command.

Now we'll discuss about the differences and similarities in debian vs ubuntu.

Release cycle and support length

Only Debian stable versions has a specific release date, there's roughly two year gap between each release, and 3 years of support time. More about debian release cycle here. While Debian testing and unstable are continuously updated until they become the next stable version.

Ubuntu is released in a gap of 6 months, and the...

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If you run Ubuntu server, you won't get packages that are 90 years old.

You mean ubuntu 8.04 LTS? I wouldnt count the non-LTS versions as that similar to debian stable. Currently, Debian Stable (Lenny) is pretty much the same as 8.04 LTS. Lenny has some things newer, LTS has other things newer.

Of course, when 10.04 LTS comes out that will all change, but right now there not much difference between them.

@Warpnow- I'd go with debian stable myself. I've used a few versions of Debian, and a few ubuntus,and on one machine 8.04 LTS was very unstable, when Lenny (and Etch when it was stable) runs OK. Of course, thats just one machine, so its not enough of a sample size to mean much.

BTW, I use debian for desktop use, I'm biased...

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Posted On: Jul 18, 2017 03:30:14

Debian and Ubuntu are one of the most widely used Linux flavors in the world. Debian is an open source operating system build on Linux platform. First announced in 1993 by Ian Murdock, Debian has evolved leaps and bounce over the years. With over 50000 packages in its repository, Debian is one of the most versatile operating systems in the world. It is maintained and developed by a strong community of highly skilled developers from all over the world.
Ubuntu is a Debian-based Linux operating system. Similar to Debian, Ubuntu is also built on open-source environments, where developers are encouraged to give their inputs and help develop the operating system. It was given the name "Ubuntu" which basically means "human-ness". With this motive, Ubuntu presents a user-friendly GUI for ease of use to the users. It is widely used in smartphones, desktops as well as tablets.
Here are some of the comparisons that differentiate...

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Expanding on the answer given a bit to include some of the other common pain points that I find influence my decisions here:

Ubuntu isn't particularly committed to fixing problems even in their LTS releases. I've lost count of how many times I've ran into a problem and the only resolution was "fixed in [version + 1]", with no fix in earlier versions. Basically, you shouldn't expect backports of major bugs and security issues; from what I've seen the effective policy is that minor bugs are only fixed in the current release.

Ubuntu doesn't care about software freedom to the somewhat extreme level Debian does, which is one factor behind why many consider it easier to use. They're fine shipping things like binary images for drivers when that's the only solution; Debian is not. For example, to get Debian to work on my laptop, I have to explicitly turn on the non-free repository and add the appropriate packages during or after install. Hardware is more likely to just work...

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